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Post by ven on Apr 15, 2012 11:12:53 GMT -5
Darkness.
Silence.
Nothing.
The young blond boy – teen? Man? – was sitting in a white chair, his arms propped carelessly up on the sides. His head was lolling on his shoulders, slumped down to nearly his right arm. One of his legs had slid back, allowing his entire body to just tilt, and the entire position just looked awkward and almost painful. Certainly there was no person who would actually enjoy sitting like that.
The teen’s chest was also moving rhythmically, up and down, up and down, making it clear that the only reason he was allowing himself to stay seated in such a slumped over nightmare was because he wasn’t awake. Ventus was asleep and had been for a long, long time now. Thirteen years and counting with each tick of the clock. What had simply started as an attempt to preserve both his mind and body until his heart could be restored had slowly turned into a never ending prison sentence-
Not that he really cared, though. Nor did he really know. Ven’s thoughts had been shut away when his eyes had drifted shut and he had sunk down, metaphorically and literally, inside his own heart. The battle against Vanitas had taken too much from him and now all he could do was just wait.
Wait for someone to wake him up.
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Post by Axel on Apr 15, 2012 18:54:40 GMT -5
. so i go insane like i always do AND I CALL YOUR NAME, SHES A LOT LIKE YOU - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Axel had heard rumors that there was a boy in the castle that looked identical to Roxas. His name was Ventus. He faintly remembered the name from the life before he was Axel; he could see how the boy looked similar. It was odd, though, trying to remember those times way back in another life. It was like looking at a movie of your own memories, where the star is someone else. He shook his head, getting his mind off of Lea and his past life and forgotten memories. He had to find this boy before another - namely, Marluxia - did.
And indeed he did find the boy first. Axel figured the boy would actually be here, though he had doubted it at first. He raised an eyebrow at how the boy was sitting in the chair; it looked uncomfortable and made him look dead. The redhead scratched the back of his neck, sighing. Would this really work? He sure hoped so. Hesitantly, Axel made his way over to Ventus. Leaning over the boy, the nobody gently slapped (is that even possible? because it is now) the blonde on either cheek. " Oi, kid, it's time to wake up. Helloooo, can you hear me? " he asked the sleeping form, hoping he could actually manage to wake the dang kid up.
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Post by ven on Apr 15, 2012 19:46:14 GMT -5
There was nothing but darkness, silence-
And pain?
It was the first feeling, emotional or otherwise, that Ventus had ‘felt’ since slipping down into his own heart and the blond wasn’t really all that sure that he was glad to be feeling it. It, well – it hurt and thank you Captain Obvious, you didn’t need to point out that yes, pain tended to do that. It felt like something in his chest was wrapped too tightly, mesh wound around his heart to keep in constricted and constrained and before that must have been okay but right now it wasn’t. Right now he wanted to scream and tear it off, though he had a feeling that would only result in shredded fingers and nothing more.
“Oi, kid, it’s time to wake up.”
I don’t want to…
The thought flickered through his mind, there and gone far too quickly for Ven to even really acknowledge that he had thought something. Did it matter? And there was a voice. One that sounded familiar, though he was certain he had never heard it before. Except he wasn’t, because if he was certain of something then he was awake and if he was awake then he was going to have to deal with the pain. It had spread from his heart, running through his limbs and veins, and despite himself the blond could feel his fingers twitch. A small groan escaped from his lips, the sound almost imperceptible – but in the silence of his tomb it all but echoed from the walls.
“Hellooo, can you hear me?”
I don’t want to! The thought was followed by an uncharacteristic surge of frustration and annoyance, and that was followed by another tightening of the cage in his chest. The pain was outweighing his desire to just slip back under and, with extreme reluctance, Ven found himself opening eyes that hadn’t seen light in thirteen years.
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Post by Axel on Apr 15, 2012 22:20:03 GMT -5
. so i go insane like i always do AND I CALL YOUR NAME, SHES A LOT LIKE YOU - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
At first, Axel didn't think the other was waking up. He stood up and put his hands on his hips, trying to figure out a way that would effectively wake up the boy . . . and then he saw it. A few of the blonde's fingers were twitching. That didn't happen to people that were practically comatose, right? A smirk unwillingly appeared on the redhead's face; the boy was waking up. It was only a matter of time before he fully woke up. " Will he still have his memories? " he wondered, rocking on his heels a bit.
The male watched as Ven's eyes opened. He could practically see them straining against the light. Well, it would only be natural; the blonde hadn't seen any light in, well . . . Axel didn't even know how long the boy had been in that comatose state. Hell, he hadn't even known the kid was still in existence. The redhead leaned over him again and lifted his chin up with one hand, examining him. After a few moments, he spoke again. " You okay, kiddo? You've been asleep for a long time. " he asked, letting go of Ven's chin. He straightened up again and took a step back, just in case the blonde had enough strength to try and attack him. That, and he figured it would be creepy if he just hovered over the boy.
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Post by ven on Apr 15, 2012 23:48:22 GMT -5
The room was painfully bright, though Ven wasn’t sure if this was just because of how intense the light was or if it had to do with the fact that he had just been sleeping. The rather groggy blond had no idea that he had been unconscious for a timespan of years – to him it just felt like a short and rather unfulfilling nap – but he knew that he had been asleep, at least. That much he had already been able to grasp and was okay with. Sleeping, huh? Where he had been sleeping he didn’t know, and in what he also wasn’t sure of. The world’s most uncomfortable bed.
Wait… am I sitting in a chair…?
Something touched his cheek again and he flinched, expecting to – had he just been hit? Had that been what had started everything? Blue eyes squeezed shut again, though in all honestly it didn’t change what he was seeing. The light still seeped in through his eyelids and he could still see the outline of a hazy shape standing before him. Tall and dark and touching him.
Still, the figure didn’t seem to be hurting him. Ven felt his chin lifted, almost as if the other person was examining him before hearing him speak. “You okay, kiddo?”
I’m not-!
His eyes snapped back open, an act that Ventus immediately regretted. Bright light flooded wide open eyes and he found himself blinded for a moment as he struggled to shift into a more comfortable sitting position. Movement brought about the feeling of pins and needles running along his arms and legs, a sensation that couldn’t really be described as painful but, again – not comfortable.
“Kiddo? I’m not a kid.” Ven griped the words out as he leaned forward, reaching up to rub at his face with his hands. The action really did nothing but when the blond pulled his hands away he found he could dare the light again. It still hurt, but he could make out the stranger’s – the man’s, that voice had definitely been masculine – figure. It was a black blob with a crown of red on top, leading him to the assumption that he was talking to a redhead. “Who, who are you? And where’s Aqua? Where’s Terra?”
The rest of the man’s statement – You've been asleep for a long time – completely flew over Ven’s head. All that mattered were his friends… and he could see enough to know that they weren’t in the room with them.
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Post by Axel on Apr 17, 2012 19:17:20 GMT -5
. so i go insane like i always do AND I CALL YOUR NAME, SHES A LOT LIKE YOU - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Axel stepped back as the boy's eyes opened, a bit startled by how fast he had woken up. He gave the other some space as he got adjusted to the light. When the blonde said that he wasn't a kid, Axel couldn't help but chuckle. " You're not a kid? Well, you might technically be older than me, but at least I've been aging. " he teased, giving a slight wink. He couldn't help but tease the kid a bit; he just looked too much like Roxas. Whether or not their personalities were the same, he didn't know - but that face just made him feel like messing with him.
The redhead smirked as the blonde asked who he was. Of course, he also asked where his friends were. Axel hoped he wouldn't go crazy on him when he told the kid what happened . . . you know, that he'd been comatose for years and years. " The name's Axel. Commit it to memory. " he replied, tapping his right index finger against the side of his skull. He lowered his arm and lost his grin, going into serious - mode. Well, as serious as he could get considering he just found the kid that looked just like Roxas, and that he met before he even became a Nobody.
He let out a sigh, thinking about how he was going to break it to Ventus that he had no idea where the rest of the trio was. Best to be blunt, then! " Well, kiddo, you see . . . you've kinda been asleep for a few years. And by that, I mean about thirteen. A lot's happened in that time, but I'm sure your friends are safe. " Axel replied, purposely leaving out the fact that Terra had - at one point - been dead, but was now alive. It was no use telling him something that would only worry him; he probably only cared that the other two were alive and well, which they were. As far as Axel knew, anyway.
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Post by ven on Apr 17, 2012 21:11:59 GMT -5
Ven blinked as he continued to stare up at Axel, his expression more than a little owlish. Everything was starting to clear up for him though and he found himself able to actually see Axel – not exactly clearly, but he could start to make out his features. You… you look… His expression, one that had been of annoyance, started to twist into something that was far more confused. The man in front of him reminded him of someone he had met not that long ago, another redhead. What had his name been?
“That name’s Axel. Commit it to memory.”
Oh yeah! That was-! Ven frowned before briskly shaking his head. That wasn’t it, though he had to admit that it felt like it could have been right. It was something like… his name was… The name was dancing about on the tip of his tongue but the blond just couldn’t seem to catch it. He had looked so much like the man, like Axel though! Shorter and he didn’t have the marks on his face and he hadn’t been wearing a black dress (was that a dress? No, wait, it might have been a coat…) but it… it felt like looking at him, only the ‘him’ he would have been a couple years down the line.
He had missed it before, but this time when Axel broke it down for him and spelled it out as clearly as possible Ventus found himself just staring at the redhead as he tried to absorb that fact that he had, supposedly, been asleep for thirteen years. I… I… what? That… had that… was that real? Thirteen – thirteen years?!
No. There was no way that could have actually happened. And yet, even though Ven’s mind was struggling to try to find explanations as to why Axel was lying to him, part of him felt like he needed to trust him. He was a stranger but he… felt familiar. He felt trustworthy and that was enough for the blond to start slowly nodding. Ven’s expression was rather drawn for a moment as he allowed for his gaze to move down to the floor, staring at the solid white marble as he tried to digest what he had been told.
I… “So they’re… okay then? They’re still okay?” In true Ven fashion, the teen completely skipped over the fact that he had apparently turned into Rip Van Winkle for thirteen years and looked back up at Axel, searching the other’s eyes for an answer to his question. As he did the blond found himself lurking forward in the chair a bit, starting to shift forward as he made his first attempt to stand. The first attempt in thirteen years, apparently, and his body made that fact abundantly clear as he did. His eyes widened as Ven gasped a little before slumping back in the stone chair.
“Ah-haha… ow.” He grinned a little before reaching around to press a hand against his lower back. “I guess I didn’t move around much in my sleep then, huh?”
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Post by Axel on Apr 19, 2012 19:00:15 GMT -5
. so i go insane like i always do AND I CALL YOUR NAME, SHES A LOT LIKE YOU - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Axel didn't have the slightest idea as to what the hell was going through the blonde's head. He figured that he was having memories of the red head; he would remember Lea, wouldn't he? It wasn't as if the two had become particularly close, but he had helped Ven out a bit back then. Him and Isa . . . When had that relationship turned sour? Axel didn't even really know the answer to that question, either. Neither Nobodies were really fond of each other at this point, but that was probably because of Axel's blatant betrayal of the Organization . . . In any case, that didn't matter at the moment.
He nodded, his spiked red hair bobbing at the motion. " They're perfectly fine. Roaming around the worlds looking for you, too, probably. " he replied with a shrug. Axel didn't want to scare the boy by saying he had no idea where the others in the trio were. That could wait for someone else to explain, if need be. He watched as the boy leaned forward and slowly tried to stand up. It took some self - control to not smack him and ask why he was doing that; really, it was years since he last used his muscles . . . did he really think that would work? The nobody hoped that it was just hope that made him stand, and not the actual belief he could do it.
The red head chuckled as the blonde fell back in his chair and made a joke out of it. Just like Roxas. Makes a joke of himself at the weirdest times. He rubbed the back of his neck, debating on whether or not to help the boy stand up. He should be able to do it himself in time, but Axel figured it was better to get the blonde out of the Castle if he could. " Nope, prolly not. Say, kiddo, want me to help you stand up? Should prob'bly get outta here soon, " he suggested. Axel didn't really know if Ventus would be able to walk even with help, but it was worth a try. Who knows, he could be fighting again within a week.
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Post by Xion on Apr 20, 2012 18:47:14 GMT -5
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Post by ven on Apr 20, 2012 19:35:17 GMT -5
“They’re perfectly fine.”
Really? They are? The first hints of genuine distrust flicked quickly through Ventus’ mind at that statement. There was no reason for it, none that he could really down, except that… except that if Aqua and Terra really were completely okay, and if they really were just out and about and wandering the worlds, then wouldn’t they have been the ones to awaken him first? There was no way that he could imagine either of them would have been okay with just allowing him to stay asleep for thirteen years.
Am I thirteen years older? It was hard to tell the answer to that one, but even though Ven felt still he couldn’t say that he really felt old. Are they thirteen years older…?
A terrifying thought indeed.
The blond was about to take another go at trying to stand when the red-head spoke up. Blue eyes blinked as Ven shifted his gaze from himself to Axel and he found himself smiling again, the expression utterly genuine and warm. “Unless you wanted to stick around for awhile watching me that’d probably be for the best.” Though, why was he even here to begin with? Axel felt familiar but Ven couldn’t drag up any specific memory from his mind that had the man in it. That fact did nothing to shake off the feeling of familiarity he held toward him, but it did leaving him feeling a bit confused and perplexed.
“Thanks Axel…” There was no polite way that he could think of to ask ‘do I know you?’ and so the blond just inhaled, intent on just plowing forward with the conversation and allowing the awkward to exist, when another voice cut into the silence.
“Axel, Roxas… I’m sorry…”
The voice sounded feminine and distraught, though decidedly unfamiliar. It was coming from outside the room they were currently in, sounding a bit like she was just right outside. Ven blinked before glancing up at Axel, waiting to see if the redhead had anything to say, especially as he had been one of the names she had been addressing.
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Post by Axel on Apr 22, 2012 15:33:28 GMT -5
. so i go insane like i always do AND I CALL YOUR NAME, SHES A LOT LIKE YOU - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Axel chuckled lightly before taking another step closer to the blonde. How exactly was he planning on getting the boy out of here, anyway? He hadn't really thought so far ahead. It had only been a rumor - and a shaky one at that - that Ventus had even been in the castle. The redhead hadn't really been expecting for him to be here, nor planned on even waking him. But awake, he's easier to transport. As long as I can get him somewhere safe - where Saix and Xemnas can't get him - this'll end well. If I can find this Aqua, or Terra . . . that'd be best. he thought.
In the end, he ended up just putting his arm under one of Ventus's - basically wrapping it around his waist - and lifting up half of his body, leaving the blonde to support the other half. Basically, he picked him up like when Sora grabbed Riku's ass at the end of the second game (you know that's what he did). " Think you can walk like this? " he asked, trying to see if there was any more comfortable way to go around this. There really wasn't; unless the redhead was willing to carry Ventus - which he really wasn't - this was as good as it was going to get.
Axel . . . Roxas . . . I'm sorry. the nobody heard, coming from the doorway. He dropped his relatively free hand to his side - he was still supporting the blonde with one arm - and summoned one of his chakrams. It took Axel a few seconds to recognize the figure as Xion. My, my, it's been a while, hasn't it, Xion? he thought with a smirk. Keeping his weapon out - he didn't know if she was going to be the nice Xion that befriended him, or the one that fought with Roxas - he called out to the girl. " Hey, Xion. What brings you about to the Castle, huh? "
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Post by Xion on Apr 22, 2012 21:36:09 GMT -5
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NOTES ▪ comment CREDITS ▪ made by zingara of btn A... Axel.... He was right there... before her eyes again, and armed... she eyed the chakram at his side, of course he wouldn't trust her, not after all she had done.... to roxas... and him. It was simple really, she was supposed to go back to sora.... yet now she had been ripped from his being once more, why? why now?
"To seal myself away, so that no one can ever use me again, so that I... I never hurt Him again... it was then her gaze went back to the familer spiky blond hair, the blue eyes matching hers, he.... he... "Ro.... Roxas?" the words stuttered from her mouth, both her friends were here... at the time of her revival, was it mere chance? or was fate playing it's hand? most of all.....
"A.. Axel.. I... Do I need to stay here? it's just... they'll hunt me... Xemnas, he'll want his puppet again and then.. he'll make me hurt you two once more and I... I just can't stand the thought of that" She said shaking her head back and forth like a bobble before her gaze once more fell fully about roxas, or who she truly believed to be roxas.
"I'm sorry... I had to go.... but I guess... were all together again right?" She said with a soft smile upon her lips, it was true, they were together, together with a shattered trust. a trust she would likely never rebuild.
"So... I'm... Gonna lock myself away... but is that really ok? I mean... why was I brought back? could it have been for... My own purpose this time, is that possible?" She questioned to the pair, her serene and troubled features evident in her face and eyes.
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Post by ven on Apr 23, 2012 17:53:59 GMT -5
Ven really hadn’t thought through with how it was that he was going to actually get to his feet and walk with Axel. The older man was going to help him but the idea of ‘how’ was still elusive. Did it matter? As long as he was up and on his feet then everything was going to be okay. He would be fully okay in a couple of days and then he would be able to go off and meet up with Aqua and Terra wherever they were and then everything would be okay! Everything that had happened would be okay. Everything with-
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What… what had… why was I even here…?
The unsettling and unfortunately familiar feeling of being unable to remember was just starting to creep up over Ventus as he felt Axel slipping an arm around him. Rather unceremoniously the teen was hauled up to his feet, one arm slung around the much taller man’s neck. The position was more than a little awkward but it did the job at least, and that really was all that mattered right now.
As he was hauled up to his feet though, and dragged forward, he heard a ‘shnk’. Ven glanced down at his side as he stumbled forward to see something held in Axel’s hand… a weapon. Something that looked like a hoop with blades on it. What? Why are you… The blond swallowed nervously as he looked back up at the redhead. You’re not holding that cause of me, are you?
No, wait. He was holding it because of that female voice. Shion? Ven blinked as they walked out of the room to entire into an equally all-white hallway. Same brightness, same intensity, and standing in the hall was a girl dressed the same as Axel. She was shorter though, closer to Ven’s height, with bright blue eyes and short black hair. Shion… do you know Axel?
Apparently so from the way she was addressing him. Axel and someone named ‘Roxas’, whoever he was. We’re all together? Who was, what was… Oh. I guess she had run into this Roxas person somewhere else. Is he one of Axel’s friends? The girl seemed to think so, though Axel didn’t really seem to think that she was a friend.
“Um…” Ven blinked a little as he shifted his weight to stand a little more fully on his own. The blond smiled at Shion, trying to ignore the suddenly awkward atmosphere that had descended on them. “My name’s Ven… Did you get lost here too? It’s nice to meet you.”
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Post by Axel on Apr 24, 2012 22:16:09 GMT -5
. so i go insane like i always do AND I CALL YOUR NAME, SHES A LOT LIKE YOU - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Axel heard what the smaller Nobody said and sighed. He kept his weapon out but held it loosely in his hand, his arm hanging at his side. It was ready to use if he needed it, but it would obvious that he had no intention of being the person to start a fight. In any case, he couldn't fight while carrying Ventus this way. He'd have to throw the boy on the floor in order to even be able to protect himself, and he wasn't really willing to do that to the blonde. In any case, Axel couldn't just let the girl go off and be used by Xemnas again. What the hell was he supposed to do? He had a crippled blonde and one of his old friends that both needed help.
" This isn't Roxas, Xion. His name is Ventus. I know he looks like Rox, but . . . he isn't. Trust me. " he told the girl, just a little before the blonde had introduced himself. After a moment, he let his chakram disappear into the darkness. He walked with the blonde to get closer to the girl, hoping that going towards her wouldn't made her too worried. Sure, Axel was pissed off at what happened between her and Roxas, but that wasn't his problem at the moment. What happened in the past was the past, and didn't matter at this point. What mattered now was getting these two out of the castle. Yes, he was taking Xion with him. He didn't really know why, but something in his gut told him he should.
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